In the most decadent ceremony that South Norwood can muster, the lake naming will take place on 1st February 2014.
Why 1st February?
To coincide with Conan Doyle’s belief in varies and many mystical things, it seemed appropriate to use the date of the festival of IMBOLC to bestow the Country Park Lake with its new name.
how many people voted for this. and what efforts have you made to canvas this idea to everyone in south Norwood.
We have spoke to the council., had a full page article in the advertiser, notified local groups. Se25, PPR and also Sherlock Holmes societies. I don’t know what more we could have done to advertise our intention. It has even been advertised by Sherlock Holmes societies in Washington Dc. The fact it has gone worldwide I think our effort was quite meticulous.
Thank you for your reply but you still have not told me how many people voted or how you canvased the residents in South Norwood. I look forward to your reply.
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South Norwood Tourist Board wrote:
I’m sorry I believe I have answered your question but no we haven’t gone door to door in a canvassing manner, if that the answer you are looking for. The poll was there for everyone to vote. If you look at what we wanted to call the lake, we were outvoted, this is what those who chose to vote wanted.
Your line of questioning regarding the validity of our vote does suggest that you have an agenda?
I don’t really think that you have any rights to name the lake in the country park. it was the south Norwood Residents Association that, with help from the Beckenham residents association, worked tirelessly to turn the area into South Norwood country park over a period of nearly 10 years. This included going to tribunals, raising fund and finally I personally had to draw up a design for a country park and out in for planning permission. Then after many discussions with both Croydon and Bromley Councils we finally got the country park. i have all the documents and papers to prove this and the park was opened by Sir Bernard Wetherill and myself followed by a lunch laid on by the council. I can think of several suitable names relating to the associations and people who worked to make the park (none of them were any relation to Sherlock Holmes or Conan Doyle) but the ‘lake in the country park’ has been fine for the last 24 years.
The work you have done is commendable but our discussions with local councillors( who are Behring this) are also fearful of us losing the country park . We got the park a lot of publicity in April ( 9 different countries) and the major comments we got was that everyone got confused with South Norwood lake as it didn’t have any name.
As Croydon council can do nothing about Conan Doyle’s house we thought it to be ideal to continue to raise the profile of the lake (you will be surprised how many people around don’t know it exists() and honour our most famous resident.
The idea is before the council, and I don’t feel it undermines any fantastic work you have done but enhances it. We having been working very closely with the council and have been invited to help open the kiosk.
The country park is a fantastic area for tourism in South Norwood but now the groundskeepers have been outsourced we feel it will eventually be under threat if not continually publicised. Similar to yourselves we are going through appropriate channels even getting funding organised
According to the Council they know nothing of this plan, so your answer is rather strange. Also giving a lake a new name would have nothing to do with whether the South Norwood country park remained a a park or not.
I never said council only local councillors and would you mind stating your agenda rather than being simply dismissive.
In a previous reply you stated that ‘we have spoke to the council’. I am not in the least bit dismissive, In my first response I suggested that there were a number of people and associations involved in a long process to set up the country park. It was a great triumph for the people of South Norwood to succeed in turning an old sewage farm into the lovely country park that we have had for more than 20 years. I have absolutely no ‘agenda’ about this although it is clear that you have given some people a list of names all connected with Sherlock Holmes and Conan Doyle to pick to name a lake, and you do have an agenda. Obviously you did not tell them or probably even know the true history of the park. I have said it is unnecessary in my opinion to call it anything other than the lake in the country park.
Yes we do have an agenda, a transparent agenda that was first stated last March; to commemorate Conan Doyle.